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Audio Portal - How Do Y'all Do It?

Posted by TheVodouQueen - 8 days ago


Hooray for first blog posts!--but let's keep it simple:


My question to people who put their works in the audio portal and get scouted / placed on the front page...how do review scores and comments work for you all? I ask because I've been looking at my own analytics and it's been...bothersome, to say the least. What seems to do 'well' in the eyes of the user-base (for me, at least) is techno, EDM, and anything sort of hip-hop that I do. Anything beyond those genres get middling results at best, and I am unsure if it's just "I'm not good enough" or "they're just bad." And most reviews are silent, and come with the caveat of no comments, so I don't know whether or not those two points are even valid or true.


I just noticed this especially recently with my AIM 2022 song... I'm past bewildered at the flip-floppy results between songs I post, and more just intrigued at this stage...


So I open the floor now to guys here in the audio portal: is it just me or is this just how NG do? AND how do you guys deal with it and get more exposure? I mostly post on NG to get feedback and improve my craft. I don't care for or am bothered about clout chasing, and I am aware of the phenomenon called "review bombing" (some people spoke to me in private about that last year during NGADM and the NGUAC.) I mean, getting followers I guess comes with time, patience and just throwing your work out there (and reviewing others' art and songs), but yeah.


Realistically, I'm just curious at this stage and wanted to have a discussion, haha (and probably just waft in the copium of this process and how to deal with it). ♡ Have a great day to those who read this uh...semi-rant...? XD And a hello to those who reply!


It's my first post here, so uh...be gentle. XP


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I wouldn't be too concerned about track scores, as pieces which get front-paged tend to attract a small number of users with very high voting power who decide to just 0-bomb absolutely everything in sight for seemingly no reason at all. If you're online more often around the time of one of your tracks getting front-paged, keep a note of not only your score/votes ratio, but others on the front-page aswell. What you'll find every single time is that if your own track score goes down massively in one vote, everyone elses is aswell around the same time. It happed the other day when all of our AIM tracks were front-paged, and it ended up with around 15-20 tracks being downvoted all at once. So it seems less likely that someone's doing it for easy-XP, and more the case out of spite.

Main things to do to keep activity/engagement up regardless is to stick close to the audio community, network abit between everyone, and keep on top of entering contests when you're able to!

as far as im experienced with other platforms. NG is very diverse from artists point of view. its very hard to make a small fanbase thatll follow your stuff. instead, your stuff gets thrown to the frontpage to hundreds of people that have a different taste (or no taste duh.)

very hit or miss situation here. collaborations are definitely the way to keep the audience fairly at the top, even if you post speedcore.

talking bout speedcore. the genres on the other hand are a thing to look at in detail. most popular genres tend to be Video Game tracks or lately Drum and Bass (showing a small renaissance.) so yeah. i guess that can be a small factor that will affect your listener count.

Just keep doing what you’re doin. I got scouted out of nowhere mostly because I was participating in a few things here

I haven’t been here for too long, and I do art instead, but my best advice is to try and interact with people and the community itself, and if you make good stuff, you’d get scouted.

An important thing I learnt about getting scouted is posting your best works, and deleting whatever you think is trash (I uh forgot who originally wrote that—). I only post art once a month because I’ll only make a piece I really like in that timeline

You can still get popular without getting a scout, if that’s what you’re going for. My most popular stuff was before I got scouted. Keep in mind there are tons of great ng users that haven’t gotten featured / got featured **once** and make great content.

Comment wise— it’s fine to not get any— it’s more important to get votes or views (in my opinion; getting more views on a piece can mean more people seeing your page physically, which can help you get scouted). I get being extroverted and liking to interact with those who follow you, which makes sense, but I wouldn’t be concerned. Think of it as people being speechless about how good (….or bad) your work is!

I hope that helps

Oh man, the audio portal used to have a scoring system that resulted in little gangs zero bombing people to manipulate the weekly/daily tops. The little extra exposer the users got from that zero bombing was worthless compared to how divided that made the community. This was also the time when ParagonX9 was the only artist that auto-played on the audio portal front page. That bit of extra exposure was great for Paragon but really no one else.

Newgrounds has always been a small pond. You can be a big fish in this pond but your best expanding your horizons a little. Keep a bandcamp page, post youtube videos, blog a bit, favorite people (they tend to favorite back regularly). The user base more or less keeps itself chugging away but this isn't where you want to be if you want to further some kind of music career. It's why we bleed so many people as the years go by, some keep coming back because they love this website. There's always new talent growing up. You can get a lot of good feedback from certain people, we challenge ourselves often but there is no real money here. Exposure stays small. I suppose I should mention that even off of Newgrounds, being a "successful" content creator of some kind requires luck and persistence. Taking a break can hamstring your steam. I try to promote the idea that we make music because we love music, not because there's a money/exposure carrot attached to a string. Every artist I know realistically has a primary job that pays the bills and keeps the roof over their heads. Even if that job is "music teacher" or "guitar shop," it's humble work. Being an artist is difficult. I landscaped for 15 years, I'm sort of retired right now...

I've worked with people on Newgrounds that went on to do great things but all that fame and glory is fleeting, momentary, and useless. A small part of the reason I keep coming back to Newgrounds is because I kind of grew up here, playing flash games in the 90s. In my early 20s I drove across the country and randomly stopped in Missouri Springfield to meet a friend from the audio forum, EchozAurora. Through her I met my fiance Tom and in a small way every good thing I have right now is thanks to this dumb website. In my experience, the front page is the best way to gear traffic towards your work and you get there by participating in contests or events, and being recognized by the people that volunteer on the back end.

IM SUPPOSED TO BE WRITING AIM CONTEST REVIEWS RIGHT NOW, LOOK WHAT YOU MADE ME DO QUEEN. ALL OF THIS ENERGY WAS SPENT ON YOU. WHAT VODOU IS THIS THAT YOU DO? WHY AM I STILL TYPING, I CAN'T STOP MY HANDS. THERE'S A BOMB ATTACHED TO MY HANDS AND IF MY HANDS GO BELOW 55 CHARACTERS A MINUTE THEY'LL BLOW UP. SOMEBODY GET ME KEANU REEVES. HE'S THE ONLY PERSON THAT HAS ANY EXPERIENCE IN SUBVERTING VERY SPECIFIC BOMBS THAT BLOW UP WHEN CERTAIN PARAMETERS ARE NOT MET, IM SO GLAD YOUR 33 AND CAN PROBABLY RECOGNIZE A REFRENCE TO THE MOVIE SPEED WHEN YOU SEE IT D: